Hurley found a van! A beat up old volkswagon van! Filled with a skeleton and really old DHARMA beer. There are way too many weird things on this island.
So just when we were all feeling better about things, because Kate and Sawyer were back, they're gone again. They took Sayid and Rousseau with them to try to rescue Jack from the Others' encampment. Apparently, the Others have houses with running water and electricity over there. Man, what I would give for a hot shower and a blanket bigger than the Oceanic airplane blankets we've been putting up with.
Claire saw some migratory birds and had a great idea! Since the birds are tagged, someone must be studying them. She suggested we catch one and tie a message to its leg. With help from Sun, Jin and Charlie, they were able to do it. Of course, they just wrote on a normal piece of paper, and we're talking about water birds, so I am not sure how likely it will be that anyone will see the message.
Nikki and Paulo are dead. There was some big mystery surrounding their deaths since there wasn't any sign of injury. At the funeral, Sawyer sprinkled some diamonds on their bodies before they buried them. Okay, that was weird. I mean, wouldn't they be worth a LOT when we finally get off this island?
Kate, Sayid and Jack returned! This time Locke is missing. It seems he chose to go with Ben's group instead of returning to us. They brought one of the Others with them. Apparently, her name is Juliet and she is a fertility doctor (which I guess is good for Sun) and Jack says we can trust her. I am not so sure, yet. I mean she was one of the ones who had Sawyer and Kate trapped in cages!
I overheard Kate and Sayid talking. It seems that while they were looking for Jack, they found another station, where there was all kinds of communication equipment. Only Locke blew it up.
They also said something about a submarine and how Ben promised Jack and Juliet they could go home (Jack operated on Ben and saved his life I think). Only Locke blew that up, too.
(It is probably just as well Locke didn't return. I am pretty sure that a lot of people would have put him on the chopping block for messing up our chances of being rescued.)
But just when everyone thought we were all safe and together, Hurley, Desmond, Charlie and Jin went off on some mysterious "camping" trip. I don't know why these folks all go LOOKING for trouble!
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Okay, to recap the comments at the end of the last post:
L4E suggested that since there are only six of us "regulars" we should a vote to see if we can discuss the title of Season 5 Episode 1.
L4E voted yes
PJS voted yes
The latest trivia question is from L4e:
Who was the rich girl that Charlie tried to con? He also became a copier salesman for her father.
(I don't know the answer, but I can see the girl's face!)
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So we have our OWN O6
Hammer votes yes.
The PJ6
LOL. I think that's what we did early on in the life of the little island. Didn't we each pick our own O6'er to "be" back then?
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Don't ask you about spoilers? Okay, well then how about you tell us how you know that stuff (even if you don't tell us what you know!)?
Does this mean you are amenable to discussing the first episode's title, DocH? Or would you prefer not to?
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DocH said: "The Hydra 6"
We each have our own room on the small island (Room# 4, 8, 15, 16, 42 and 108). Karl used to be 23, haven't seen him lately. PJs in Room 108, the penthouse suite.
I love it! They Hydra 6! Because the Hydra was on the little island! And I agree that none of us wants to be in room 23! LOL.
Good thinking, DocH.
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I vote yes and would like to request room 16.
Finally got in to DWY (Dharma Wants You). Got a 68. Now how long is the next wait.
They should have given us 108 seconds, not 100.
I have no problem about "episode" title speculation - it is hardly a spoiler unless someone with INSIDER details tells you what it means or in what context it applies.
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The info I read is from a small blog in hawaii that follows the production folks around and has insider info from an extra on the set.
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If you really want to speculate... think about who you have seen in the ABC commercial about next season... and who you haven't.
DocH said: If you really want to speculate... think about who you have seen in the ABC commercial about next season... and who you haven't.
Since we got TiVo, I don't watch ANY live television (except for LOST because our TiVo doesn't record in HD). So I haven't seen any commercials. Maybe I am better off! LOL.
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Boy do we kick but in beach volleyball.:)
I believe the father of the girl Charlie tried to con liked DIAMONDS and the BEATLES.;)
Yes the H6, perfect.
So how many different possibilities for the episode title are there? The obvious is Locke. But maybe it is about all 6of them and maybe even Ben.
Lucy!
(At least that is what I got from your clue, L4E.)
Off to Lostpedia to see if I am right (and then think of a new question).
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Yep, Lucy.
Okay, the logo at the beginning of the show is black and white. Name two other instances (of several) when black and white come into play within the show.
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I'm up to a 81 on Test 1. It seems to be running smoother today. There is one trick, your time does not start until the first peice is laid.
Very addictive.
Backgammon, Chess, black and white stones. I read somewhere that the Black and White stones were in the scene in Flashes Before Your Eyes, when Des wakes in the past.
Very good L4E. I also remember someone having a dream where Locke had one black and one white eye.
Okay, you're up.
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Thanks for the tip about retaking Test 1. With your help, I was able to improve my score from 71 on the first test, up to 85.
Of course, the "leader board" seems to only be about recruiting friends, not the scores on the tests. At least that is how I see it.
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Anytime PJ. Up to an 86.
What was Charlie trying to steal from Lucy Heatherton?
Ooh ooh, I know this one! Charlie stole her father's Winston Churchill cigarette lighter. Oh, except you said TRYING to steal, so maybe there is something else I don't remember. I will wait for your confirmation!
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Looks like we all vote a yes on discussing the S5E01 title... except for Miss Kim from whom we have not heard in a couple of days.
Miss Kim, you out there?
*g*
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hey gang--I'm here. It's been an unreal week....straight out of an episode of "ER" or "Grey's Anatomy"....only real life. So surreal I'll share it w/ you. On the plus side, my SO is out of the land of restless volcanos. Home safe and sound. Onto the unreal part. I am friends with a couple that have a 1 year old. (I am especially close to the baby, Penny.) He is 35, She is 32. He had a heart attack on Mon. night and was set up for quadruple bypass on Tues. @ 2PM. (Family history of heart problems) I spoke with her Tues. AM, things were going as well as possible. While visiting him in pre-op, she passed out, hitting her head. A CAT scan was performed and she was rushed into emergency brain surgery. Both made it through their respective procedures. He has been moved out of ICU and is gaining strength every day though it is going to be a 6 week or so reccuperation. Her prognosis is a little more sketchy. She's still in ICU probably be in rehab for around as long as his reccuperation will be. Oh--and to top it off, their daughter turned 1 on Wednesday. Simply unbelievable. Penny is doing well--she's a little off, but not too bad. Babies are lucky like that. Throw another loving adult their way and they'll be ok. It's gonna be a long 6 weeks, but we're all keeping our fingers crossed. As far as discussing the title, I say go for it. I had read it somewhere and didn't think too much about it at the time. I took that test on Dharma a few times, but it didn't give me any numerical score. I'm not great w/ spatial relations but after a couple of attempts I did manage to complete it with some time left on the ticker.
Wow, Miss Kim. You're right - it sounds like an episode of a tv show! My thoughts are with you, Penny, and her parents.
Scary stuff.
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Thanks PJ....it was nice that you guys "missed" me. btw....I refer to this blog as "my people"...and to that my SO refers to me as "dork". LOL. This week helps remind me how truly lucky most of us are, despite the trials and tribulations of daily life. It also reinforces to me as a parent how important it is to have some kind of "plan b".
Hopefully Dharma will start scoring my damn test soon....
Well, my score finally registered. I guess they got the site working a bit better. My best score is a 60. I'm pretty far behind you guys, but I really suck at spatial relations. I actually have one or two puzzles in my pre-k classroom that are too "tricky" for me to do! I labled the pieces so I can put it together quickly if I have to. My score put me in the group called "Pandora".....that must be LOSTspeak for the lower functioning/self-contained classroom group!
I was Ganymede, too, DocH. Thanks for the info about it.
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For speculation's sake: I am a >3 times tester in Pandora. Much >3 times, actually....
Hi.
My name is lost4ever and I am a lostohlic and a gamer.
Growing up during the 80's I fell in love with any type of video game. First Atari, then Nintendo, then Playstation, etc. I would play for hours on end to beat my or my friends high score. This trend has carried over to the current day. Needless to say, It took me many more tries than 3 to get an 86 (Virtous?). I did not know about the spacebar feature and will not try it with that. I have always hated "cheat codes" on video games and consider that a "cheat". My latest addiction has been Call of Duty.
You got it PJ. The cigarette case. I said trying because, in the end, he was caught. He did not return it through his own free will.
I am also a Ganymede. I found someone that scored a 62 and is also a Ganymede. I wonder what the pattern is?
Sorry to hear, Miss Kim, about your friends. My prayers are with them.
Thank you L4E.
I wonder if what grouped people had nothing to do w/ the actual scoring. It could be completely "random", like ABABABAB, depending on when an individual logged on for the test. Pandora had the gift of curiosity. I checked the dharmawantsyou site almost every day since I found out about it....sometimes more than once a day. I also had a thought that perhaps those of us that were checking the site regularly before it's official test launch date had a lot of what didn't escape from Pandora's jar: hope. Of course, all of you Ganymede's may have done exactly what I did, checking in regularly before it was supposed to be up an running. I read up on Ganymede in mythology in didn't really "get it"....with the exception of "being favored among Gods", I'm not quite sure how the whole mythos about Ganymede would play into LOST. Interestingly enough, I did see some kind of relevence in Ganymede, the moon of Jupiter. From Wikipedia: "Ganymede has a permanent (intrinsic) magnetic moment independent of the Jovian magnetic field. The value of the moment is about 1.3 × 1013 T·m3. The permanent magnetic moment carves a part of space around Ganymede, creating a tiny magnetosphere embedded inside that of Jupiter; it is the only moon in the Solar System known to possess the feature. In addition to the intrinsic magnetic moment, Ganymede has an induced dipole magnetic field. The induced magnetic field of Ganymede is similar to those of Callisto and Europa, indicating that this moon also has a subsurface water ocean with a high electrical conductivity." There is also a cool drawing which reminded me of something I saw somewhere attempting to illustrate a time/space LOST theory. Anyhow, just thought I'd pass that along for y'all to think about.
Nice to see even more info on Ganymede, L4E, thanks. Maybe the island moved to Jupiter?!
Okay, question from me...
What was Jae holding when he crashed through the roof of Jin's car?
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Jae had the pearls he wanted to give to Sun with him when he died. I thought that the unusual magnetic properties of Ganymede were interesting....perhaps this could be some kind of clue about the Island's unusual electromagnetic properties. OK back to the q&a. What was the name of the hotel that Jae's family owned/Jin worked at?
Not sure how factual this is, but there seems like there was something called "Project Pandora", a U.S.military project related to microwaves and psychology... basically electomagnetism and mind control. Interesting.....
Very interesting, Miss Kim!
Don't know the name of the hotel, though... Paik Plaza? LOL.
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Oh no, it was Jae's family that owned the hotel, not Sun's. (Looked it up on Lostpedia!). Good question!
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Well I got behind on Sawyer's nicknames again... mostly because there haven't been too many. I think the writers got tired of making them up!
Season 3 Episode 22 Through the Looking Glass
none
Season 4 Episode 1 The Beginning of the End
Scottie to Desmond
Ese to Hurley
Episode 2 Confirmed Dead
Colonel Kurtz to Locke
Yoda to Ben
Johnny to Locke
Taller Ghost Walt about Walt (in Locke's vision)
S o B to Ben
Episode 3 The Economist
Gizmo to Ben
Red to Charlotte
Freckles to Kate
Episode 4 Eggtown
Freckles to Kate
Montezuma about Hurley
Episode 5 The Constant
none
Episode 6 The Other Woman
none
Episode 7 Ji Yeon
none
Episode 8 Meet Kevin Johnson
none
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Cathing up.....
Good luck miss kim.
Locke might be the obvious title character, but what about Jack (wasn't supposed to leave), Ben (supposedly can't go back), Des (way more obscure), Kate/Sawyer reference?, Sun/Jin reference if Jin is still alive?....
The title "Because You Left" intially makes me think Locke/Jack. But as Hammer said there are many possibilities.
How many people left? Is 8 right? Ben, Desmond, and the o6. And then Locke left later.
Because You Left makes me think that one character's leaving the island resulted in something for another character on the island. So I would tie Locke/Jack together, but there could be others
as Hammer stated, Sawyer/Kate, Jin/Sun, maybe also Juliet/Ben?, Island/Aaron, Hurley/hurleybird?
Many possibilities.
The hotel sure wasn't a Holiday Inn Express.:) I have no idea what Hotel it was. Good one Miss Kim.
Frank left the island too but I don't think it's about him. I think it ties in with what happened when Jack took the O6 off the island. That is why Jeremy Bentham went out to try and bring them back.
So, what type of horrible things could have happened since/because Jack/the O6 left. Remember, Ben said they all had to go back so it may mean the entire O6.. Wonder if Ji Yeong needs to go back too. Ben said Locke/Bentham's body had to go back too.
The losties now have no leader and are at the mercy of the others. Locke had found the others somewhere near the Orchid. They were supposed to be at the Temple. Are the two close and are they related. Natives would put the Temple near the source of power if they new where that was.
What other terrible things happened because they left.
Just guessing CM, but Locke doesn't have enough info about the island to be an effective leader. Some or all of the whisperers have decided to expose themselves in an attempt to be "freed" (remember that one of my theories is that the whisperers are dead in the island's time line which isn't the same as our time line) creating havoc. Locke panics as he feels he has no choice but to find Ben and the O6 to put the island back into harmony.
Crazy idea, eh? :)
CM: "Remember, Ben said they all had to go back so it may mean the entire O6.. Wonder if Ji Yeong needs to go back too. Ben said Locke/Bentham's body had to go back too."
Let's not foget the source. Ben said. Ben has been known to bend the truth when it suits his needs.
I think Locke was on the island for awhile before being booted, but I could be wrong.
Not so crazy, Hammer!
I keep going back to who is LEFT on the island... Juliet, Sawyer, Claire(?), Rose, Bernard, Miles, Charlotte, Daniel(?), Locke (for now), Ben (for now), Jin(?), Richard, Cindy, Zack, Emma.
We watched Meet Kevin Johnson last night. In it, Michael pawns the watch that Jin was supposed to take to LA for Paik. There was a Korean inscription and I feel like that is going to be important somehow. I mean someone will find it and realize that if the watch is in New York, then it ISN'T in the Sundra Trench!
As for the title, I feel like everyone's theories are going to be way off - otherwise, they wouldn't have released the title already. Like the "frozen donkey wheel" was a clue and we didn't even realize just how MUCH! LOL.
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I'm disappointed PJ. You left out Charlie.:)
The titles of the episodes are usually pretty accurate and have meaning.
You might be correct PJ, but I'm sticking to all things whispered. :)
People have left the island before. Richard, Ben, Goodspeed, Tom, Michael, Ethan and the guy who got beat up. Why was it OK for them to leave but not the O6. They left and could come back. We are assuming that Charlotte and Miles were on the island as well as Dan and they left. Did anything bad happen because they were there. Is it different for those who come intentionally or were born there than it is for those "brought" to the island? Where does Juliette fall in those catagories?
Richard's leaving the island seemed to be tied to recuting. Tom's seemed to be damage controll but could be thought to be recuting Michael back. Locke as Bentham was recuting back the O6.
Exploding the hatch made the island "findable." Moving the island "hid" it again.
OK, so waiting for the next epi was something I was getting used to but now I am anxious again. I bet that is why they let it out. We will discard the obvious and theorise for months and then the obvious will be the answer. At least it is something new to talk about.
L4E said: The titles of the episodes are usually pretty accurate and have meaning.
Oh I agree wholeheartedly! What I meant was that they are rarely what anyone PREDICTS they will be.
L4E said: I'm disappointed PJ. You left out Charlie.:)
Actually, I didn't leave him OUT - I think he is OFF the island! LOL.
CM said: We are assuming that Charlotte and Miles were on the island as well as Dan and they left.
I don't think they left. I think they are stuck there just like Sawyer et al. I think it may be that the only way to get off the island (while it is hidden) is by turning the frozen donkey wheel. (Speaking of which, I amend my statement above which says that Ben is on the island - d'uh!)
CM said: Is it different for those who come intentionally or were born there than it is for those "brought" to the island? Where does Juliette fall in those catagories?
Good questions. MAYBE the only way Ben "is allowed back" to the island is to bring those on Jacob's list BACK to the island. We know that Jack wasn't ON Jacob's list because Ben brought him to the dock to do his needed spinal surgery. Kate was on Jacob's list. Aaron, as a "native" may be. Maybe Jack has to go back so that Kate and Aaron will go back. Sun wasn't on Jacob's list, but maybe because of Ji-Yeon, she has to come back. I don't know if Hurley was on Jacob's list, or if he was only brought to the dock to be the one to go back and warn the others.
So much to wrap my head around - and that is WITHOUT the time travel element!
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Hi Hammer. Thanks.
What if "Because You Left" has nothing at all to do w/ the island? It could be some kind of fb or ff where one person (Rousseau, Faraday, Charlotte, anyone else) left someone/something or was left by someone/something..............
Maybe "Because You Left" referring to Hurley. He was the glue between Jack and Locke, IMO.
About Jacob's list, how many "hostiles" have access to Jacob's list? Just Ben? I am not so sure what he says is Canon in the LOST world. When he tells Jack they all have to go back, maybe, in some way, that is the ONLY way Ben can make it back.
PJ,
When I said that Dan, Charlotte and Miles had left the island I meant then chang predicted the purge on the ComicCon video.
OK, a dose of reality. If this was on Lost I would be reading all kinds of things into it.
I was trying to search for information on a clock in our neighorhood is a sub division called South Park. When I did a on-line search for South Prrk clock a site came up, http://www.pbase.com/csdesign/image/23666722. At the top of the paige it has the name Colin Bainbridge and the name Darlington. Circus Dork is on Bainbridge island for the week visiting her cousins. Darlington is the last name of one of the other board members of the Community Development Center that I work with. The CDC is why I was looking up the South Park Clock.
Sometimes a duck is just a duck.
crapcrapcrapcrapcrap!
Okay, if you want to remain COMPLETELY spoiler-free DON'T go to tvguide.com.
ARGH!
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Yepper...that's a bit of a spoiler, but you'll have to stay away from the internet to keep that type of spoiler out of site.
DocH, in your lostpedia updating, are you able to get in touch with the folks that do the whisper transcripts? We need to get on them to analyze the audio from the season finale!!
Well I TRY to stay away from the internet, but TVGuide sends me emails - and though I don't OPEN them, the HEADLINE in the SUBJECT of the email was a give-away.
I guess I can't live under a rock for the next four and a half months!
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DocH said: I still haven't heard any thoughts about the ABC promo and the 'SIX' they are showing in it. (que?)
If they are ABC promos, I am fine with discussing it here. I don't watch live tv, as I said, so I haven't seen the promos - but I am up for discussing it!
As for the TVG spoiler, I did go to the website and the only thing the note said was that the person in question was hired for "one episode" in the coming season. It did specify which episode, but I won't say here! *g* I have not searched farther than that, so if your source says differently, it is just as likely right as TVG!
Miss Kim, I think we have to call 'uncle' on your hotel question. Could you please give us the answer and try a new one?
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We watched The Shape of Things to Come last night. Something caught my attention more than it did the first time I saw it. After the explosion that basically blew up "Claire's" house to the frame, which Claire "survived" this encounter happened in Ben's house:
SAWYER: You all right, sweetheart?
CLAIRE: Yeah, a bit wobbly, but, uh, I'll live.
MILES: Well, I wouldn't be too sure about that.
I wonder if that means Claire *is* dead, or if Miles knows that is where she is headed. I know we've seen Dave *hit* Hurley in his hallucinations. I know we've seen Charlie *slap* Hurley in whatever that encounter was. But can a DEAD Claire (a walking whisperer) actually CARRY a live baby?
Hmmm.
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The name of the establishment is the Seoul Gateway Hotel. What is the name of the man that interviewed Jin and gave him the job as a doorman?
I know this one! It was Mr. Kim! (I only remember because I found it amusing... another favorite show of mine was Gilmore Girls, where we NEVER saw MR. Kim - only Mrs. Kim!)
Okay, here is my question: In "The Shape of Things to Come" Ben has (time) traveled to the middle east. How did he explain how he got off the island, when Sayid asked?
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A new test is up at DWY. They must have learned from the first round... you can take the test more than once, but the questions will be different and only your FIRST score will count! They also will not release your score, but count it in the final assessment.
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Geez, I felt like a Jeopary contestant....not good.
SAWYER: You all right, sweetheart?
CLAIRE: Yeah, a bit wobbly, but, uh, I'll live.
MILES: Well, I wouldn't be too sure about that.
I took that as Miles knowing that Keamy and Co. mission was to kill everyone on the island. JMO.
I am not sure if a dead person can hold a living one because I don't think Claire is dead, like Charlie.:)
Didn't Ben mention something about Desmond's boat and a plane.
L4E said: I am not sure if a dead person can hold a living one because I don't think Claire is dead, like Charlie.:)
LOL. I don't know if Claire is dead either (and thanks for the nod to Charlie). However, I now realize that CHRISTIAN was holding Aaron the night that Claire disappeared. So... I guess if you go with the D&C definition of dead, dead people CAN hold a baby!
Too many questions!
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OK, I wrote Dump Truck / Locke !!!
I can't remember why. I obviously thought it was inportant. Any ideas?
L4E, you are right about Ben and the boat/airplane - sorry, forgot to tell you that earlier! Ben told Sayid that he'd taken the Elizabeth to Fiji and chartered a plane.
CM - You lost me... huh?
LOL
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Ignore the dump truck comment. I can't remember what I was thinking.
On test two. You can take it without logging in before actually logging in and taking it and having your score recorded. I found out accidentaly. I got Polyphemus, another Cyclops.
I'll have to remember the ole don't log in and practice trick! LOL.
I am "Sterope" which is another cyclops, but about a dozen other ancient Greek characters, too.
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I too am in the Brontes category. Did test 1 come out last Wednesday? If so, I wonder if they are weekly tests.
What were Charlie's five greatest moments?
Charlie's "Greatest Hits" (probably not in the right order)
- learning to swim with his dad
- hearing their first song on the radio
- getting the DS ring from Liam
- being a "hero" when rescuing Nadia from the mugger
- the night he met Claire
That was a GREAT question!
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Here's my question - what are the six things that Captain Eyeliner shows little boy Locke when he asks which are "his" already?
Interesting note - we watched Something Nice Back Home and the first part of the season finale last night. In it, Abaddon is wheeling Locke to the elevator and having a discussion about the walkabout:
LOCKE: And here you are, an orderly.
ABADDON: Oh, I'm a lot more than just an orderly, John.
ABADDON: When you're ready, Mr. Locke... you'll listen to what I'm saying. And then when you and me run into each other again... you'll owe me one.
To which DH says, very matter-of-factly, "So Abaddon is Jacob."
I never made that leap, but it works for me! LOL
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A compass, a book of rules, sand, knife, comic book and a ball glove (I'll say a softball mit for obvious reasons :)).
Abbaddon = Jacob only if Jacob can morph (likley?) as we have already seen a glimpse of him as an anglo looking man.
Hammer said: Abbaddon = Jacob only if Jacob can morph (likley?) as we have already seen a glimpse of him as an anglo looking man.
True - even D&C admitted that the anglo looking guy we saw was a prop master and not an actor, so I bet Jacob CAN morph.
You got all SIX items! You're up, Hammer!
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Who is only known member of the DHARMA Initiative that DIDN'T join the hostiles but still survived the purge?
Speaking of DHARMA, I had weird experience today. There were two plain white vans with very small black lettering on the driver door. The lettering said DeMaira Midwest, but a first quick glane I thought I saw Dharma Midwest....I will checking into rehab later today. :)
LOL. I hear you, Hammer! At least I have stopped seeing "the numbers" in commercials!
Okay, my first guess at your question was Mikhail, but I am not sure that it was ever confirmed that HE was a DI person. So I think I will go with Inman, instead - except I don't think the timing is right. Okay, scratch that, I will stick with Mikhail.
LOL. Maybe I need rehab, too!
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Oops, huge blunder. While verifing my question I found inconsistencies.
Mikhail sort of admitted to lying about being the last remaining member of DHARMA, so I guess we don't know which is the lie???
FYI, Inman came after the purge.
So we should call your answer correct.
Correct by default - I will take it! LOL.
Two characters were associated with the same prestigious university. Name the characters and the school.
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Hammer said: Mikhail sort of admitted to lying about being the last remaining member of DHARMA, so I guess we don't know which is the lie?
LOCKE: I thought you said you had no idea why [Widmore] was trying to find he island.
BEN: I wasn't being entirely truthful.
LOCKE: Yeah. When are you ever entirely truthful?
Mikhail obviously took lessons from Ben!
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Oxford....Faraday....that's all I can guess.
Both right, Hammer... anyone else know the other character with the Oxford connection?
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Charlotte Lewis earned her degree there.....
Excellent, Miss Kim! Well whichever one of the two of you (Miss Kim or Hammer) returns to the site first, can ask the next question!
Dh and I watched parts 2 & 3 of There's No Place Like Home. FTR, I bawled as hard this time, and got goosebumps, when Penny and Desmond were reunited as I did the FIRST time I saw it!
One thing I realized - Sawyer doesn't know Kate made it off the freighter. That is sad. I hope Juliet cheers him up. *bg*
We're almost half way through the waiting time (well that is a bit of an exaggeration, but it helps to think positively).
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Were only a third of the way PJ. 5 months to go ( Late Jan., if not earl Feb. ). It's only been 2 and a half months. Reality over positivity, for me, in this instance.:)
Fair enough - but I think the finale was three months ago today - so we are 3/8 of the way through (if we have to wait until the end of January - which I expect we will). That *IS* "nearly" half! LOL
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You are correct PJ. 3/8 or .375. .375 is halfway between .25 and .5.
The GreenDay song When September Ends is the perfect song to mark our halfway point, because that is the halfway point, the end of September.:)
Thanksgiving will be nearly the 3/4 mark. HOLY SHITE.
Can't wait for the Browns to win the Superbowl. That means LOST will be here.
Thank you Canada for inventing Labor Day, or as you call it, Labour Day.
The end of summer......sniff, sniff. Very sad--except it DOES put us closer to an all new season of LOST!
I haven't seen the promo, DocH. I went to abc dot com to look, and saw all kinds of OTHER things, but no LOST promo. During which shows is it playing? Maybe I will record the shows JUST to see the promo! LOL.
Hammer or Miss Kim, you're up for a question!
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Sorry, I used the weekend for it's name...literally...LABOR DAY!!. Had to do end of the season inventory and re-org for the rental biz.
What university are the DeGroots affiliated with. Hint...their football team lost their second home season opener in a row this weekend.
Hey doc, can't access your profile...what's up?
Um, yeah. No idea. And for me, the football hint doesn't help! LOL.
I did see a one minute ABC promo on youtube - for ALL the ABC shows. Maybe that's the one you meant, DocH? Jin, Hurley, Sawyer, Jack and Kate, I think.
D&C said that we haven't seen the last of Jin and Locke in SOME form, so they're both working this season! LOL.
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Hint two: The Swan and Peal videos make mention of which school they were doctoral candidates.
I'm a big JJ fan, so yep, I'm giving it a shot.
I think I'm the only one 'round here that thought Cloverfield was a good flick?
I liked Cloverfield! That was a great movie!
We're huge JJ fans here, so we'll TiVo Fringe and give it a shot. I have heard nothing about it, except that it is his!
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Welcome back to the little island, CAG!
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Thanks PJ, Things have been pretty hectic since I got back from vacation ... but I've looked in from time to time. I just suck at trivia :)
There's a new test @ DWY. My score was a 64%, got me ranked as Enceladus (a moon of Jupiter and a Greek Giant I think). Watch out for the SIDES of the puzzle as well as the moving orbs!
Neither of my first two tests have ranks there now. Odd.
There is a video from Hans if you click on the center of the DHARMA logo. It has a couple of those "interference" blips (like on the old Halliwax / Candle / Wickman videos), but I couldn't get anything from them.
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Scored low on the test. Also got Enceladus. Will keep trying. Look up "Black Swan" on wiki.
Check this out.
http://lost-keys.blogspot.com/2006/08/black-swan-myth-or-reality.html
Is it the home of the Maize and Blue Hammer? It looks Yellow to me but if you want to call it Maize go ahead. U of M.
As for Fringe, I was really looking forward to it, I am a huge Reddick fan. I made the mistake of reading the reviews though.
And the promos DocH, I have not commented because I have not seen them. I am actually trying to avoid them. With less than 5 months to go now, 1 promo might get me too excited for such a long wait. As the title of the first episode did.
The Fall Season is here and I started off today with perhaps the BEST cop-show ever. The Shield. I am eagerly awaiting Heroes on the 22nd.
http://www.shipwreck.net/pr134.html
also interesting. Mentions the Black Swan project.
Hey there CAG (fellow Clover fan).
L4E is correct...some call it maize some call it corn. :)
Okay I watched the video on DWY...if you have a fast mouse finger, you can pause and restart the video almost like a freeze frame progression. I have timed his words to when the video will be interupted and started clicking away. The interuptions look like animated grids, in some of them are numbers and letters, so far I have found 40, 60, B, and P.
No idea what to do with this....
I have also seen a black swan...
Well I don't know what the Black Swan or any of the names of the categories mean, but I will tell you that I think, overall, DWY is pretty lame. I wasn't around during Find 815 (I did some of it after it was completely over), so I don't know how it was structured week to week. DWY, however, it *not* particularly interesting, or engaging, especially given the hype at Comic-Con, etc.
I would be interested to hear how others feel about it.
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First time poster--your theories are much more brilliant than mine. But I've been lurking here ever since the "Little Island" opened. There's a cheat for test #3.
Welcome towanda! Not that the DWY tests are worth cheating on... what is the cheat?!
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Just wanted to make sure it was okay to say ... don't want to violate any rules on the first time out!
Type "lento" after you first click the Dharma logo. It will slow the balls down. They speed up after a while and you have to type it again.
My daughter was involved in the viral marketing for the Batman movie and gave me the hint.
I finally got 100%.
Found this online. This is how the video clues in to the "lento" cheat:
Cheat Clue: In the video of Hans Van Eeghen released September 2, 2008, there are several corruptions that show a frame or two of black swans and numbers and letters. The numbers are 40 and 60 and the letters are B,P, and M. In music, 40/60 BPM is known as Lento.
It STILL took me a bunch of tries, but I finally got to 100% too. It was hard negotiating the flying orbs AND typing! LOL.
I wonder if there were cheats for the first two tests? I read that you could space bar or something in the puzzle.
Okay, now that we know there are cheats, I think we should establish a rule where we can't reveal cheats until the latest test has been up a couple of days. That way, if someone wants to do it F&S, they can.
If that doesn't sit well with anyone, please speak up!
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Used the cheat on test 3 and got 100%. I am now uncatorgized on tests one and two. I used to by ganymead and polythemus. Got a 99 on test one with the cheat. Press the space bar as soon as you move the first piece. Solve the puzzle and then hit the space again.
How did you all answer the last question on test two? What is the answer to this question? A B C or D.
Circus Mom said: How did you all answer the last question on test two? What is the answer to this question? A B C or D.
I thought that was such a giggle! I think I answered D. I think that is one of those "everyone got it right" questions!
I am also now unclassified on both tests one and two.
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On test 2, the A-B-C-D question, I found out (too late) that you were supposed to click on the underlined "i" in the word analysis. Somehow the answer was revealed there.
Cool DocH! Thanks!
I made the mistake of looking around that blog a little afterwards - then I started seeing characters' names and got out quick! *bg*
I am my own worst enemy when it comes to trying to avoid spoilers! LOL
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Just watched the pilot episode of Fringe. Don't want to give away anything for those of you interested, but I did notice one thing stolen from LOST that won't reveal too much. They used music from LOST finales in one scene. I am sure you will recognize it when you hear it.:)
Gotcha DocH. Do you have a link to the ABC promo? I really don't watch anything on that channel except for LOST.
It's a shame to hear there are "cheats" for the DWY.
What medical school did Jack attend?
If you go to
http://abc.go.com/
and (after being subjected to a 30 second commercial) click on the magnifying glass in the right hand video panel. It will allow you to choose which video to see. The ABC promo that we're talking about is the one called "Don't Miss the Fun."
I have no idea about Jack's medical school. Good question!
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About the promo, I wonder if they showed LOST last because they are not really apart of the FALL season. I don't watch any other show on ABC, I did watch Pushing Daisies last year until the strike hit, and I only saw the 2 main charcters from that one. Did the other shows include all of their characters?
I think they used whoever was available for the promo on some of the shows. Since there will be some sort of "time travel" in the next season of Lost I would expect everyone we have seen before could make appearances at some point or another. Dead or alive (or undead) they can still appear.
Okay, I have been thinking about the promo. Personally, I don't think there is a significance to who is in it, because D&C probably don't have any control over that. Plus, everyone ELSE in the promo was dressed up. Our LOSTies were in their green/brown island clothes - even Kate, Hurley and Jack. I wonder if they used old footage in that promo? Not ALL cast members are in EVERY show in that promo, but where they are all there, it has definitely been shot FOR the promo. The Pushing Daisies promo was (I think) footage they had for the two second teaser they showed at the end of other shows last season.
But back to our LOSTies... it occurs to me that Jin learned quite a bit of English VERY quickly - and I don't think that was just "business" to round out the story. I think he learned English because he DID jump off the freighter in time and Daniel and the redshirts picked him up in the raft and hustled back to disappear with the island. I also think that is why Charlotte knows Korean, so someone else can continue to teach him English!
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I am not suggesting that someone COULDN'T learn English that quickly, but just that he DID. What I mean is, that when he got on the raft, he had a VERY limited grasp of English. That was half way through the stay on the island. Which left him 40 odd days to learn a LOT of English - enough to understand and communicate fairly well. Enough to survive on the island without Sun to translate. Convenient, is what I am saying.
I don't doubt that there is a GREAT backstory reason for Charlotte knowing Korean. It is just another CONVENIENT coincidence in driving the future of Jin's story, because I believe he survived. I HOPE he survived.
Hanna came through and blew and spit at us, but on a drive around this morning, we saw little damage, thankfully. I think our area will escape Ike, and Josephine is dithering a bit right now, so who knows where she'll end up - if at all!
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PJ-I think that you have raised an interesting point about the Charlotte/Jin language thing. A coincidence usually isn't just a coincidence on LOST. I like your thought process!
Thanks, Miss Kim!
I had a thought about Jack and medical school - I remember Juliet quoting Jack's file, saying that he finished medical school a year early. I think she said he was at Columbia.
Am I right, L4E?
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Okay, I just looked it up. What I said was right... Columbia and finishing medical school a year early. Since no one else has guessed, I don't think I am messing it up by saying that Lostpedia says he went to UCLA for medical school though. But I can't find in which episode that is specified. Does anyone remember?
In the meantime, since I was close, I will ask a question!
We've seen many of our 815 survivors buried on the island. At least six were buried at the beach. Name the one who was buried, but NOT at the beach.
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That was Eko, they thought that there were too many people buried in their makeshift grave yard.
Speaking of burials, what driving story-point, do you think, for *someone* burying Rousseau and Karl? I mean it doesn't make sense that Keamy's mercenaries would take the time to dig (albeit very shallow) graves, does it? Story-wise Miles' discovery of their bodies could have been done just by having them in the jungle hidden, so I have to believe there is another reason those bodies were buried. Maybe something to do with "bodies on this island don't stay buried?"
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Fast work, Hammer!
Your turn.
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Most of the stuff that is inconsistent I remember because I try to figure why it would be different, like this one...I remember because they decided to bury him where they found him. They made a point to mention it so I thought there would be a BIG reason for it....anyway.
Here's an obscure one...what color did Jin's roomate tell him "love" is?
It was when he first ran into Sun.
No clue, Hammer! LOL. I do remember the scene, but not the color!
As far as remembering things BECAUSE they are inconsistent, I find I do the same thing. Things stand out because I want to know WHY they are different.
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Love is.........orange?
They burried Eko away from the beach because Locke said the survivors had had to deal with too much death recently. The Marshall was also burried away from the beach. Jack burried him in the jungle and he and Kte later went back and dug him up for the key to the silver case.
No idea what color love is. I'll try green just to guess.
That was me
Love = orange...because a hottie was walking by in an orange dress.
Eko was the one I was going for, but good catch on the marshal, CM!
Miss Kim was right with orange! Your turn!
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Fringe. Personally, not very impressed so far. Hopefully it picks up next week.
I watched Fringe....got a little impressed in the last 10 mins. Nice plot twist. It was better than what was on after--"Hole in the Wall". OK. A symbol was branded onto Juliet. In addition to being branded on Juliet, where else was this symbol seen?
Ooh ooh ooh... wasn't that mark on a tree or something? I remember noticing that the second time around (I saw a LOT of stuff the second time around!).
We TiVo'd Fringe. Watched the first 15 minutes tonight - the rest tomorrow. I will reserve judgment until after I have seen the whole thing.
(I am off to check my answer on LP.)
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Yup, it was the tree (at least that's what I found - maybe you have another idea, Miss Kim?)
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Tree_mark
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Juliet%27s_mark
Going with the idea that I am right, I will ask one now *g*.
Okay, going with body markings, what did Charlie's tattoo say?
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There is a new video announcement (dated 9/9) on DWY. I will leave it to one of you to figure out what the hidden stuff is (the only one I noticed is very early in the video).
No new test right now though.
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Fringe hasn't met the hype yet...but I thought it was very entertaining. I felt the Lost influences (sound effects) I wonder if all of JJ's TV shows will start with passenger jets. :)
ARGHH!
So DWY asks people to create tests and enter them. I created one. But every time I try to enter it, I get to the third question and the site freezes.
Re: Fringe, I noticed a LOT of the same names showing up as key players in the production. JJ, of course, Bryan Burk, April Webster, and of course, Javier Grillo-Marxuach did the music.
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Yay!!! With the guidance of PJ I made it. Your right, that flight was RIGHT on time. One hell of a bumpy trip though. Could you do something about that???
SO, I guess that I have some MAY-JAH reading to do tonight to catch up on what you all have been posting. :)
Hey there Julie.
Hey Hammer,
It only took an act of congress to get me here.
So, I'm at work and am just perusing things that have been said and here's (some) of my input.
Sure! Let's discuss ep 5.01. :)
Fringe = awesome! I laughed out loud at the 'shwoosh' sound prior to commercial breaks.
Ababamamammanadaaon (Yes, thats what I will refer to him as from now on) is freaking CREEPY! But surely this doesn't mean that we wont see him on Lost anymore, right?
And I am completely PRO-Joshua Jackson in ANYTHING. (showing my age ::sniff::)
Welcome, Julie! And I think Joshua Jackson's pretty cool myself. Don't think I am in his key demographic, though. LOL.
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Hmm, I wonder if I am? 27? He can't be much older than that, can he? Anywho...
Has anyone seen the ratings info for Fringe yet? I'm just curious how many Lost fans tuned in.
Oh..and Doc, awesome catch on the passenger 108!
Okay, I was able to upload my test! You can take it here:
http://tinyurl.com/dwy-PJS
Now that it works, that was kind of fun. Has anyone else done one?
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Hi Julie! Glad you found us. I'm thinking about Charlie's tat...couldn't come up w/ anything--but I checked on Lostpedia....our friend Charlie has two tattoos apparently....(as does Dominic Monaghan...they're the real deal) Good question PJ. I'll take a look at your test after the darling goes to bed.
So, I just made my test. It only took me about 3 6/7 hours... between watching a movie, cooking dinner, and having my three year old decide that I'm a jungle gym. I'm sure theres a MILLION typos.. but take a look.
http://www.dharmawantsyou.com/site/?utid=795838803576695279030579353582#/qp
Nice test PJ. I'll try more later. Here's mine: http://www.dharmawantsyou.com/site/?utid=852631637187694401166099582564#/qp
Okay PJ... I feel like I should just hand back my nice little small island invite after taking your test. Appearantly I've been taking the short bus recently and not realizing it.
Welcome Julie. Glad you found us. I thought PJ made it a little too easy for you though. I liked the Ben F. Cavier game better.:) Looks like the Hydra 6 found us a Desmond.
I was a huge Lord of the Rings fan and I remember the actors in the fellowship each got a tattoo of something. I think it had something to do with the number 9, for the 9 members of the fellowship.
Won't have time to check out your tests until next week.:(
After watching the ending of Fringe a second time, the last 20 minutes really came together. I thought there was too much cheese in the first hour. What is the other reference to LOST DocH?
Did anyone catch the commercial for Massive Dynamics?
Julie, Miss Kim, take your links to www.tinyurl.com and get shorter URL's because they're falling off the edge here and I can't pick up the whole link!
I made my test hard because the DWY multiple choice tests are similarly difficult... you either know it, or can take a reasonable guess at it or you just get it all wrong! LOL.
I think I will do one with LOST trivia just for fun - doubt that DWY would use it officially, but it would be fun for us to take!
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Regarding Fringe: LOVED it. The second half was definitely better than the first, but I think much of the beginning was establishing the background and the characters. Did anyone else spend an inordinate amount of time looking for easter eggs - in numbers, background signs, etc?
I did see the mini-commercial for Massive Dynamics!
I won't say anything more specific in case there are some who still want to see it but haven't. But do you think we may learn what Captain Eyeliner's been taking to stay looking so young? LOL
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Okay, here is the link to my "fun" trivia quiz on DWY:
http://tinyurl.com/dwy-pjs2
It is just a combination of ten of the questions I have asked here on the little island over the last few months. Multiple choice is either going to make them harder or easier! LOL
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OK PJ...here's my "little" link: tinyurl.com/misskimdharma. Oh, and Julie--I thought your test was harder than PJ's. Interesting that on a philosophy quiz there was only ONE right answer!!!! I will spend today reflecting on my answers vs. the "correct" answers. :)
A hint on my test... the correct answer is what Dharma would consider the correct answer....
Miss Kim, your correct in Philosophy, there is rarely a right answer (I minored in it..lol)
Miss Kim, I only got three right on your test and I guessed on the all! LOL.
Julie, I only got three right on your test, too... but after what Miss Kim said, I didn't expect to get ANY right!
There is a "test 4" up at DWY now. No score, but my category is "Helios" this time.
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Well, Kim.
I got a 50% on your test. I think the only reason I got THAT many right is due to the fact that up until the begining of this year I lived in the middle of the Arizona Desert and worked at the hospital. Every so often we would have to take courses on 'natural cures' for things.
::pfft:: Hikers NEVER take a first aid kit with them. :)
Massive Dynamic has a web page:
http://www.massivedynamic.com/
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Cool Fringe blog Doc.
Okay.... so I've gotten a few messages on my myspace saying that my test doesnt make sense because there are multiple correct answers. I guess when I made it I was thinking "In the eyes of Dharma what would be the right answer?"
I was trying to think about 'recruit screening'.
Sorry to make is so complicated.
DocH did you create the Fringewiki site? It looks awesome - can't wait to see all the cool stuff that gets posted!
Anyone want to take a stab at the question about Charlie's tattoo, or should I find a better question?
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ps - I put up a LOST Trivia quiz on DWY, check it out:
http://tinyurl.com/dwy-pjs2
Well PJ, I got a 90 on your triva quiz. I'm pretty happy with myself. I would do a happy dance but I think that people might start at me in the office. LOL! Gotta keep the cool points up, you know?
Can I say, I actually prefer this blog to the 'big island'? Because I'm not a encyclopedia of Lost knowledge I feel a little slow sometimes on the big isle. :)
Julie said: Can I say, I actually prefer this blog to the 'big island'? Because I'm not a encyclopedia of Lost knowledge I feel a little slow sometimes on the big isle.
You may certainly say it! *g*
Sometimes there are people on the big island who can be a bit, shall we say, abrasive? Here, if people do posts like that, I can just delete'm. So far, we've been very lucky!
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Oh Mylanta, DocH! That is one wonderful review! Well-written, precise and right on the money!
FWIW, the inside out shar-pei the size of a rat was, I believe, a naked mole rat. Perhaps the ugliest creature on earth.
See:
http://tinyurl.com/NakedMoleRat
The ONLY reason I know that is that I got an email one day with its picture in it. It said something like, "If you think you are having a bad day, just think... you COULD be a willie with buck teeth!"
LOL.
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Okay so I had to laugh. I'm have a pajama day with my three year old son and we found "War Games" on AMC.
This is probably old news to everyone but I had to laugh when the computer called an adoreable Matthew Broderick Dr. Robert Hume.
...make that 'having'
Hey guys... I have a question.
Remember how in the good ole days when Smokey would attack we would see images involving the person being attacked "in" the smoke?
Did we see, or did anyone see stills of, anything in Smokey when he attacked Keamy and his men?
Julie, I do not remember seeing any images in Smokey in the episode with Keamy and the mercenaries. Good point, though!
Did anyone catch the fleeting reference to LOST on SNL last night? It was during an insipid sketch, which I usually would have FF'd through - but it was a new cast member, so I thought I would give it a chance. Anyway, this waiter/server person talked about there being a pepper smell and gave several analogies. One was about the Pepper Monster from LOST getting stuck in the restaurant.
It didn't make the sketch funny, but I got a kick out of the LOST shout-out.
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LOST is beginning on the sci-fi channel tonight at 7:00.
It started on a local syndicate here in the D. Channel 20 had the Pilot on last night.
Okay... so now I know that I'm completely addicted.
I'm driving to lunch today and thinking about ole smokey. (I laugh every time I say that because I live in TN and that's what we call the Univ of TN mascot) I dont know why this popped in to my mind but the more I think about it, the more I like the idea.
So... the original 'others' the ones that used to inhabit New Otherton (?) are obvoiusly afraid of Smokey. I mean they built this huge sonar fence to keep him (yes, it's a boy) out. We have all accepted this is the truth. Smokey = bad juju.
So, here's where my brain wondered today. In season 4 Ben 'released' Smokey on Keamy and his Rambo wanna-bes...or Rambo has-beens..... or did he????? Stay with me here.
Why are the others so afraid of Smokey if he can be obviously somewhat controlled by Ben? If Smokey is being kept outside the fence when how was he able to get inside the fence once Ben summoned him?
Here's my theory. There are TWO Smokeys! I'll brand one a girl and one a boy just to keep the ideas separate.
So, boy Smokey has somehow gotten out of control. He floats around the island flashing...printing parking tickets for rehabed VW vans..lol.. JUDGING people. Maybe this is where my brain was heading when I asked about the 'images' when Smokey attacked Keamys men. I think that 'he' is beyond the control of Ben and has taken on protecting the island and doing the things that we normally attribute to him.
Now, for Smokey numero dos. :) Maybe the weaker Smokey? (Not that girls are weaker!!! lol) She is controllable by Ben. She hasn't had to judge thus why we didn't see the flashes, the images. Why the sound she made was a little different than that of the normal smokey. Maybe why Keamy's guy wasn't KILLED by her.. just injured (later dying).
Okay.. so am I way off the rocker with this?????
DocH, I wanted to read your Fringe review again and when I clicked on Drama and Fringe (from the drop down menu), the page was blank. I found the tinyurl again, so I know it is still on the site. Are they waiting to see if anyone can write a review as good as yours? I don't think anyone can!
The answer to Charlie's tattoo question is "Living is easy with eyes closed." I like it because it relates to a song from Wicked (which is based on the book by Gregory Maguire, which the "backstory" of the witches of Oz" - Maybe we should do six degrees of LOST!), which says "life is fraughtless, when you're thoughtless" and "life's more painless for the brainless."
Okay, so here's a question for you, who is the first character to speak in the pilot? What does that character say?
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"Living is easy with eyes closed" is a line from Strawberry Fields Forever.
Living is easy with eyes closed
Misunderstanding all you see
It's getting hard to be someone
but if it all works out
It dosn't matter much to me
Didn't Hurley speak first? Can't remember what he would have said other than DUDE.
So I didnt have to bust out the script... I called my mom and asked her and she said "In true Lost form, it was Michael yelling "WAAAAALT!"
The transcripts on lostpedia lists it as Michael yelling Walt, but in wtching it tonight, I could hear Claire screaming "Help".
4 episodes in one night, I love it. Just like the DVD's, except with commercials.
I was going by transcript, so the answer I was looking for was Michael yelling, "WAAAALT!" Plus, that's just funny.
But L4E, I will also acknowledge Claire's yelling for help! So... the first one of you two to return to the little island can ask the next question! Julie? L4E? Who's it gonna be?
The two smokey idea is intriguing, Julie, I will have to think on that.
Hmmm. Yeah - I will think on that.
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Okay here's a question for you. Not a very hard one...
In the artic listening station, what is the numerical equivilent given to the electromagnetic occurance?
Hey Julie,
I updated the thread - check the home page and go to the new posts there!
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