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Present. 8)
#54 - The photo of the island, which is seen in the Lamp Post, was dated 9/23/54.
Present.
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Working o a thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norns
Clotho spins the thread of life. Jacob spinning.
The Well of Urðr in the Norse version.
Why did Hurley go back?
Thinking, thinking....
Circus Mom said...
Working o a thought.
While you're working on Hurley, please add, "What's in the guitar case?" The easy answer is "a guitar," but why? And where is it? Hurley didn't take it with him when they fled the barracks.
I'm clueless.
8) Jim
Has anyone else read The Stand by Stephen King? Since D&C talk about it so much, I decided to read it. I am not a fan of "scary" books, so I had never read King's work. This is not exactly scary.
I had originally intended to wait until I finished the book before bringing it up because I wanted to see how the parallels panned out. But the book is somewhere around 800 pages and I know I have forgotten lots of things already.
I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read it, but I do want to discuss it. So, if there are some who have not read it that want to, I can start a different thread to discuss it with those who have.
Please chime in with your opinion!
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PJSander said...
The Stand
The copy in our local branch is checked out and due back Saturday. I just reserved it. I've watched the mini-series twice; that may be of limited value. My guess would be for a separate thread.
8) Jim
Jim in Georgia said...
Circus Mom said...
Working o a thought.
While you're working on Hurley, please add, "What's in the guitar case?" The easy answer is "a guitar," but why? And where is it? Hurley didn't take it with him when they fled the barracks.
I really do believe that Hurley DID take the guitar case with him when he fled the barracks.
Guitar (too many things to cite)
Ah, now that you mention it, he did. He had filled a backpack with a supply of food and was wearing the pack and carrying the guitar case to meet with Jin. I think that was in "Follow the Leader," which I no longer have on my DVR; the darn thing keeps filling up!
8) Jim
I think it is Charlies guitar in the case and Hurley is bringing it back to him. I just can't figure out what convinced him to return, unless it was the guitar.
Charlie told him to go back. Said they needed him. Hurley said no.
Jack said we need to go back (I think). Hurley said no.
Ben said we need to go back. Hurley said no way!!!
Stranger in a cab says you need to go back, and by the way, you're not crazy. Hurley goes back? Something is missing in the explanation.
LOL, CM. You are right, we need a bit more in Hurley's transition.
But I think Hurley was the one who said they needed to go back (at the gym where they were playing basketball at Santa Rosa). If so then it is
Charlie tells Hurley "they need you" and Hurley says no.
Hurley says "maybe we should go back" and Jack says never. Hurley says, "Never say never, dude."
Sayid says to do the opposite of whatever Ben says.
Ben says, "go back" and Hurley turns himself into the police.
Hurley is released (ostensibly by Ben, but perhaps by Jacob) and Jacob tells him to go back and whoosh, 24 hours later, he is on that plane.
So that got me thinking. Mrs. Hawking and Jacob both knew about A316. Are they working together? Did Ellie ever meet Jacob on the island? Hmmm.
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The guitar case. It isn't Charlie's case (that had stickers all over it) but I am also not sure it has Charlie's guitar inside either.
The guitar Charlie had on the island never made it off the island (at least I never saw it on the helicopter or afterward). It might be ONE of Charlie's guitars - procured from his family or whatever, but I don't think it is the one he had on the island.
Maybe it is an EMPTY case, meant to bring Charlie's guitar BACK from the island? Or maybe inside is proof of Sawyer, et al, surviving the island's move and that is why Hurley was on the plane?
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Just checking in....
Guitar case has a guitar
FOR whisperer Charlie. Hugo no longer thinks he's crazy and thinks he will be 'seeing' Charlie again in whatever version a whispere is...
Hammer said...
...a whisperer is...
I hope beyond hope that they explain the whispers in season six. I think they owe us that one.
Btw, during the incident, Radzinsky's jeep got sucked into the hole (I think) or at least right on top of it with Radzinsky plus two bailing out. What happened to the DHARMA van that the good(?) guys were in?
8) Jim
Ok, all these theories are making me tired...it's been a long weekend!
So for some fun - #55 - Michelle Rodriguez was find for driving 83mph in a 55 mph zone
And for one that's actually LOST-related - on day 55, Charlie decided that Aaron needed to be baptized
#56 - In the Flame Station, this was the code for the computer which accessed the Sonar system.
So no takers on _The Stand_ eh? It is a LONG book and the first part is interesting, but the parallels are remote. In the second half, well WOW. That is all I can say! LOL
Jim, when you've finished it, please let me know and I will open a thread.
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I hear you, DocH! I like that it makes me sleepy (I have a hard time going to sleep) but it has taken a LONG time to get through this book, but now that I am near the end, it is getting more compelling.
#57 - Libby's boat, the Elizabeth was a 57 foot Nautor's Swan.
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I read the stand a long time ago and would join the discussion.
Richard said to Fake Locke that there can only be one leader at a time. We had previously assumed that Ellie and Charles were leaders together. We are mission a edge piece here.
I read the stand a long time ago and would join the discussion.
Richard said to Fake Locke that there can only be one leader at a time. We had previously assumed that Ellie and Charles were leaders together. We are mission a edge piece here.
Hmmm, maybe it's not my vision issues that put me to sleep when I read books. Must have been that I was a King fan. :)
Supposedly Sun took the pregnancy test on day 58.
DocH said...
Almost as bad as Ayn Rand (IMHO).
Nothing, as in nothing, comes close to being as bad as Ayn Rand. I may have gotten to page five of one book. King's big problem, to me, is the vulgarity in the descriptive text; I don't mind -- depending on the wordy dirds used -- when characters swear, but, "He walked down the *#*%* street," is pointless. I did like Insomnia. It was long, but the plot was interesting
The Stand is now overdue at my local branch, but the nice lady on the other side of the counter said that's often the case with books due on weekends.
I have, btw, been thumbing through (The?) Watchmen in more than one grocery store over the past several weeks. I'm holding out for the library book sale in September; maybe I'll get lucky. In the meantime, if I "go shopping" with my wife often enough, I could finish it.
8) Jim
Jim, you should try PaperBackSwap.com - it is easy to join and a great way to get books very cheaply. That's how I got my copy of the Stand.
I didn't find that there was any foul language OTHER than in character conversation, at least in this book.
DocH, I guess you're not a "move every five years" kind of guy - that would get quite tiring with a library that size! Whoosh.
I look forward to hearing from Tarzan!
CM, interesting thought on the Charles / Ellie vs "one leader at a time" idea. Do you think it is possible that Alpert knew that wasn't really Locke? There was speculation that Ben knew. Maybe that is why Ben and Alpert didn't have to have the conversation about FLocke's plans to kill Jacob - because they both knew it was coming. It did seem out of character, IMO, that Ben didn't go running to Alpert to get him to foil Flocke's plan.
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Apparently there's not going to be an actor's strike! That would really stink if the last season of LOST got cut short because of another strike!
http://tinyurl.com/nostrike
And back to the numbers...59 - on day 59 Kate finds Mr. Friendly's beard and costume in the Staff station.
I was not yet a member of this august assembly when "The Little Prince" (TLP) aired, so I went back to check that I wasn't re-hashing old stuff.
The was a change on the LP to the theory page for TLP. It was about who was shooting from the other canoe, but right above that was a comment about a D & C podcast in which Damon said people should read the book - TLP.
In passing, we have a doctor in our area who is also an inspirational speaker. The evening I heard him, he commented that most people think TLP is a children's book, but it's not.
Summary here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince
If you don't know or, like I, have forgotten, the story, it might help to stop there for a few minutes. Anyway, I actually have a point. Or at least, I think I do.
The little prince (the person) visits six other asteroids and their inhabitants. The list - with my annotations:
The King
The Conceited Man - Locke or Ben
The Drunkard/Tippler - Jack
The Businessman - Widmore
The Lamplighter - Eloise Hawking
The Geographer
Comments?
Oh, yeah. One of the maps of the Island is at http://lostmap.blogspot.com/ a user there named "anonymous" (I think I know him) has titled the airport on Hydra Island the "James LeFleur international airport." LOL
8) Jim
Hey PJ, It's Wed.
Here are some thoughts.
I am wondering if Jacob is good?
Jacob stoped Kate from being punished for stealing the lunchbox.
Jacob encouraged James to write the letter that controlled his life with the idea of revenge.
Jacob delayed Sayid and allowed Nadia's death causing Sayid to become a assisian for Ben killing off Widmores people.
Jacob brought Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Jin, Sun, HurleyIlana, Braham and the Black Rock to the Island. I assume he also brought the Hot air balloon and the drug plane.
Widmore (abaddon) brought Daniel, Charlotte, Miles, Frank, and Locke to the island. Charlotte, Miles and Daniel were all likely to be born on the island.
Who were the others protecting the island from. During the truce they were allowing Dharma to co exist. They had to have had something to do with the buildings or the tunnels would have been discovered. Also, why didn' Jin discover either Rose and BErnards shack or the Swan site during searched of the grids? Why didn't the otheres discover the Swan station? They seen to know where everything is. Something changed between 1077 and 1992 to cause them to purge Dharma. Perhaps the same thing that ousted Widmore.
On another note, Jack shot a whole lot of people in The Incident. Not very Doctor like at all.
Interesting thoughts, JiG! I read through the page you posted and noticed a couple of things...
The King - it says that he can "control" the stars but only by ordering them to do what they would do anyway. That made me think of Jacob, I want to think about that one some more.
The Lamplighter - it says that this is the only adult that the prince meets that cares about something other than himself. Again, need to think on that one some more in relation Eloise.
Want to write more, but babies are crying...nap time is over :(
Well I have had a very unpleasant day, and it was really nice to come here and see a rousing conversation from everyone!
So I guess I will be a day late and a dollar short THIS week too!
Bad Blog Hostess!
TLP is on my nightstand waiting to be read when I finish The Stand (and my book club book, which needs to be finished by MONDAY! ack!).
James LaFleur International Airport... sounds like a DocH funny to me! I chuckled out loud, and I am telling you I needed that!
CM, I like your line of thinking with the "who brought them to the island" thing. I wonder who the "real" Henry Gale really was. Curiouser and curiouser.
I just don't know how they can tie all this stuff up in seventeen hours!
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As I was debating all the possibilities to myself (oput loud) in the car I decided that they will answer all the inportant questions and that I can harldy wait. I refuse to be dissapointed.
Another pondering.
Why did BG need Locke to leave the island and die to have his loophole. Many other people have been to the island and many have died but he needed Locke. Why not Charlie, why not Eko?
DocH said...
Maybe Beach Guy really lives in the cabin. BG Cabin? (not Jacob's cabin).
Why not? We know where Jacob lives (lived?). Beach Guy lives in the jungle and Jacob lives on the beach. We pretty much know from Ben that the spectre seen and heard by John was not Jacob. Christian says he speaks for Jacob. That doesn't mean that the cabin has to be Jacob's; it only means that Christian knew that Locke would seek Jacob at the cabin.
Question: Why? Horace said, more or less, "Find me, find Jacob." Did Locke find Horace or is the body in the mass grave Sayid's?
Question: If Ben really wanted to save the Island from Widmore's mercenaries, why did he not stop Locke from his -- theoretically -- useless trip to a cabin where Jacob never was?
Question: Why? Horace said, more or less, "Find me, find Jacob." Did Locke find Horace or is the body in the mass grave Sayid's?
Oh mylanta! Oh mylanta! Breathe in breathe out breathe in breathe out.
This freeking BRILLIANT, JiG. I thought how could that be? But I looked, and it *IS* Horace's jumpsuit that Sayid is wearing:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/SayidasHorace
Now, we know that Horace DID die in the purge, because we saw it happen. But yes, what IF that body isn't Horace's.
Wow.
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Is there a screen cap of "LaFleur in the Pit?" If so, drop it onto the LP and add it to write-ups. It's been some time since there's been a good fight over there. LOL
8) Jim
#60 - the number of degrees the drill temperature went up when it passed seventy meters (according to Chang).
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#61 (Lostpedia) Charlie Pace's episode count - he died on his 60th episode (sorry PJ!) and had one more ep with Hurley after that - 61 episodes total for him. :)
Rita, Rita, Rita... Charlie "died" on his 60th episode. The quotation marks are paramount to my mental health! LOL
#62 - The Apollo Candy Company is founded in San Francisco by M. David Benson, with candy first sold at J. Pickersweet's Five & Dime. (from The LOST Experience)
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Whoops, I left out the 1962 from my last post!
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Haha, I had to read that a couple of times PJ...I assumed you meant 1962 before I read your next post though!
On day 63, Bernard tried to build his giant S.O.S. I guess it didn't really matter if he built it or not though, no one could fly over the island, poor guy...and now he's gone and turned into a Moses look alike!
Ana Lucia was shot by Michael on day 64.
On the blast door map, the square root of 64 (4) was shown with the square root of 16 (8) and 225 (15).
Good softball weekend...my daughter's team (that I head coach, patting myself on the back)placed 2nd in the Richmond Can-Am Games tourney here in Richmond, MI.
I'm sick - probably strep if I had to guess - and woke up from a bad dream this morning. In it, there were tall columns of thick black smoke every mile or so along the horizon and several miles away.
It wasn't until I was recounting the dream to my kids that I realized it was BLACK smoke. That reminded me of the column of black smoke that Rousseau claimed she saw the night that "they" took Alex. Now that we know that Ben took Alex, and warned Rousseau about the whisperers, where do you think Smokey fit into it?
#64 - according to LP: On Thehansofoundation.org if you go to a nonexisting link, the Numbers on the loading screen are 4 8 15 16 23 42 and 64.
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D'oh!
You beat me, Hammer!
Congrats to your daughter, her team and her coach!
Okay, I guess I will go look up #65 now!
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Okay, on day 65, Libby died from the gunshot wound, despite Jack's best efforts to save her (and that bullet proof pillow! LOL).
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The Tubey's have started at
http://tinyurl.com/mvhehd
not to be associated with the TilLIe's - TWOP has begun it's annual summer awards. This is the first week of voting, and will continue for several more. Many LOST nominees are offered.
After poking around other sites, something hit me. I have been saying ever since Des had his conscience time travel exp. that he and Penny would be our A & E. I had doubt after seeing Rose and Bernard wanting to be left alone and started leaning toward them. BUT, I got to thinking that Des is coming back to the island ala Ms. Hawking saying that island isn't done with him yet. I am thinking that when he comes back, Penny won't let him go alone. They may or may not get a chance to link up with the Losties again, but IMO will indeed end up being A & E.
Hammer said...
...[Des] and Penny would be our A & E
I think you're probably right. The black and white stones near the skeletons were distractors.
Sidebar: Does Little Charlie -- heck, do any of the children -- ever come back?
8) Jim
DocH, thanks for the heads up for Top Chef (in the TiVo, I would be happy to recap for you) and for the Tubey's. There were some unusual categories (best performance by an inanimate object! I voted for 4TS!).
JiG, I really do hope the kids all come back. We've got Walt, Aaron, JiYeon, lil Charlie, heck even Zack and Emma!
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Hammer, I am torn about A&E. For it to be D&P or R&B, we'd have to see a fair bit more time travel occurring. I feel as if Season 6 has to be set squarely in ONE time "zone" in order for the remainder of the story-telling to be fulfilled.
But, if it has to be one of those two couples, I would say it is more likely D&P just because they WEREN'T in that cave with the original LOSTies. It would just be TOO weird for Rose to have been looking over her own skeleton!
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#66 - In The Variable, a young Daniel is playing "Impromptu No. 4 in C-sharp minor, Op. 66; Fantaisie-Impromptu" by Chopin on a piano in his home, according to LP.
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The Kids
Someone made a comment somewhere (ya' like the specificity?) that the actor portraying Walt has the talent of a 2x4. LOL
He really didn't get much of a chance to emote.
8) Jim
I just checked and amazon.com has the 5th season of LOST available for preorder for only $38.99 right now, regular price is $60. It will be released on December 8, 2009.
From the description - Bonus Features Include: 7 Lost on location, A Day with Josh Holloway, Los Angeles crew tribute with Michael Emerson, the 100th episode, Time Frame and Continuity, Bloopers, Deleted Scenes
This is my usual Christmas gift from my in-laws, I don't know what they'll get me after the 6th season is released!
Thanks for the heads up, DocH. I entered the Fantasy League. I think I will skip the predictions thing, that sounds like it would be a lot of work! LOL.
I entered under The Lost Blog. Too bad we couldn't petition to have TLI as an option!
My "team name" is TheyMovedTheIsland again. I had an easier time picking my team now that I understand how it all works.
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Thanks for the heads up, I just created my team - Little Island LINS - so even if we can't claim this blog, we can at least pay tribute :)
LOL. I like it LINS!
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I have long avoided spoilers except for the official trailers. However, it's a long way to early 2010, so I decided to watch what was available on YouTube.
Some of the stuff is SO BAD that there ought to be a law against it!
Very little of what I saw was a spoiler, btw.
8) Jim
I was just looking at the promo shots for Season 5.
Of "Season Five Off Island," five of the seven are together in 1977; Sun is thirty years off base. Only Desmond is still off (Island). *g*
Of "Season Five On Island," three (including Locke) of the six are dead and Juliet under most definitions would be terminal. Only Sawyer and Miles are on their feet (in 1977).
It was a tough year!
Biggest argument that I know of on the LP is whether a valid UAQ is "With whom is Ellie pregnant?" Most people agree that it's probably Daniel, but that there's enough doubt that we can't say it. There are a few who can't get the idea that "We're writing an encyclopedia" and that we're dealing with facts not assumptions.
There's an interest "spoiler" on youtube about Jack's eye. I don't want to say any more, since it might really be a spoiler, although I think the contributor is wrong in his analysis. If we're allowed to talk about this (PJ?), let's do it.
8) Jim
Well I steadfastly maintain that Eloise's child in utero can NOT be Daniel. I am not sure if it was here or on TBI, but I know I laid it out. Were Daniel born in late 1977, or 1978, he could NOT be a Physics professor, with a doctorate, at Oxford in 1996. I know they put in that line in his flashback that he was the youngest doctorate recipient at Oxford, but he would have had to finish high school at twelve to pull that off and given that what we saw of him around age eight (at the piano), I just don't see it.
I don't think that they're even shooting next season yet, so any "spoiler" that may be out there is just a guess, IMO. I am okay with you posting a link to the youtube, JiG. Then I will watch it and make a determination as to whether we ought to discuss it.
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Saw the "Top Chef Master" episode with D&C. Unfortunately, they, nor any of the writers, really said much. It was a neat show, but there isn't much to recap.
Four chefs (one who was a huge fan, one who had never seen the show and two that did not specify) were given ingredients that might be found on a deserted island ("wild" boar, chicken, eggs, papaya, yams, etc.) and access to a list of canned food (that might have been dropped by DHARMA) from which they could choose items to buy at Whole Foods. Their list had a DHARMA logo on the cover, which was cool.
The chefs were then given two hours to create a dinner which was served to three judges, D&C and assorted unnamed LOST writers.
The meals were served to this panel by wait staff dressed in DHARMA jumpsuits.
D&C were shown giving their opinions on a couple of the dishes, but otherwise there was no mention of LOST.
The chef with the best "rating" for their meal was moved forward to another challenge later in the season.
C'est ca.
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I said...
..."spoiler" on youtube about Jack's eye.
PJ Said...
I am okay with you posting a link to the youtube.
Here's the link:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWVjFAXZT9Q
As I said, I think the guy's analysis is off.
8) Jim
ROFLOL. Well that takes "easter egg" to the Nth degree, IMO!
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(ps - yes, we can discuss it)
"Today i made a very disturbing discovery about the series 'lost'" (sic)
Alien, my foot!
At best this is a reflection of an animal with white fur and a snout (hint, hint). At worst, it's an artifact.
At best this is a reflection of an animal with white fur and a snout (hint, hint). At worst, it's an artifact.
Or, just the production lights behind the camera. *g*
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There are some interesting science fiction efforts coming up (web, TV and big screen). Details here.
http://www.scifiscoop.com/
8) Jim
#67
Sayid was born in 1967.
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#68
1968 - the year of Sawyer's birth.
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H A P P Y
F A T H E R ' S
D A Y
to all the Tillie daddies!
LOL
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Hmmm. JiG discussed the fates of the characters in the Season Five photos, but on another site, I came across the Season Four photo (the same as on TLI home page) and I found something interesting!
Everyone on it is still part of the show - though not necessarily alive. The photo shows Claire (status unknown, but the character is returning), Locke (dead but moving), Sayid (badly wounded... for now), Juliet (wounded and presumed dead, but well... you know).
None of our "really dead" characters - Charlotte and Daniel specifically, are in that photo. I do recall D&C saying something about "returning to the roots" of the storytelling and having Season Six mirror the first season.
I don't know that it is significant, I just found it interesting. I had a dream last night that LOST Season Six started today.
Boo hoo.
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I checked out The Little Prince yesterday so I'm looking forward to reading it and seeing what all the discussion is about.
That was really cool, DocH, thank you for sharing. There honestly wasn't anything "new" but I love Jorge Garcia, so it was fun to hear him talk about the show. One notable thing he said was that shooting in Hawaii is really great, and sometimes he feels like he is just shooting with his friends, and forgets it is a big tv show.
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Go here to read about how Disney is going to convert "Discovery Island" at the theme parks into "Lost Island," including animatronics to allow the presence of the principal characters.
http://www.disneysfolly.com/2009/06/lost-island-coming-to-walt-disney-world.html
However, don't suspend your skepticism. As well-written as the piece is, it's a hoax.
8) Jim
You know what's funny, Jim, is that we've discussed Disney turning Tom Sawyer Island into a LOST attraction! We might have even discussed it here on TLI. Too bad it isn't true!
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Did you figure out the anagrams, Jim? I won't reveal here until others have had a chance but I really like ONE of them!
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PJSander said...
Did you figure out the anagrams, Jim?
Anagramming is not one of my strong points, so I stared at the page for a few seconds and gave up. One of them is solved in the comments.
8) Jim
Yeah, I saw that one was solved in the comments, but not until I had already tried to figure it out. (I went to an anagram puzzle solver to do it!). The other one I had help figuring out, but REALLY enjoyed it when I solved it!
Where is everybody?
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Dorks sweet 16 tomorrow. Very big deal. Takes all time.
Circus Mom said...
Dorks sweet 16 tomorrow. Very big deal. Takes all time.
Congrats to Circus Dork for making it and to Circus Mom for getting her there!
8) Jim
H A P P Y
1 6 t h
B I R T H D A Y
C I R C U S
D O R K !
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Nashville keeps calling to me. I am on the Board at the local Moose Lodge and our convention next summer is in Nashville in early July.
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