Now that we are entering the redux stage of our programming, are we going to see Kate's adjusted reality in flashbacks? In "What Kate Did" we saw Kate, in flashbacks, killing her father (whom she thought was her step-father), being arrested, being "saved" by the black horse, and escaping Edward Mars, and visiting the her (step)father at his recruiting station. How has the "incident" affected these events?
Interestingly, "What Kate Did" is also the episode where Mr. Eko says, "Do not mistake coincidence for fate."
Things that make you go HMMMM.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 214 of 214Hi all, Just caught up on the reading. I belong to the local Moose Lodge and we had a big five Wed. morning and have been cleaning out debris and breathing ash ever since.
I loved this episode and think there is a ton of useful information burried here. I will re-watch before posting on it but from last week.
Sayid dies and Hurly and Miles are leaning over the body. Hurley asks Miles "What" and Miles says "Nothing." I took that to mean 'I can't read anything from him. He is dead and should be talking to me.'
Sorry to hear about the fire CM.
I took that to mean 'I can't read anything from him. He is dead and should be talking to me.'
Unless Miles "heard" something he's not telling anyone about....
Jim wrote: I don't follow the "externals" a lot. Did Terry O'Quinn know that he was portraying a different character from Hydra onward?
In rewatching Season 5, I think he must have been told SOMETHING, because he DOES play Flocke with subtle differences - differences which are more noticeable once you are "in the know" about the character.
CM wrote: Sayid dies and Hurly and Miles are leaning over the body. Hurley asks Miles "What" and Miles says "Nothing." I took that to mean 'I can't read anything from him. He is dead and should be talking to me.'
Miles was definitely confused, but he WAS doing the twitchy mambo that usually accompanies his "hearing" someone. Not sure what to think of that.
Someone (not sure who, or even where at this point) mentioned Jack and Kate both looking in mirrors and then having a slightly different demeanor. Are they experiencing a special kind of deja-vu, or can we read more into that?
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I think they are experiencing some kind of Deja Vu. I think thats why Claire got back in the cab with Kate.
circusdork pointed out that the whale that Kate finds in Claire's bag is the same one she gave to Aaron when she was raising him.
She also pointed out that both Rousseau and Claire went "bat shit crazy" after giving birth on the island and having their babies taken away from them.
I rewatched the first few minutes of LA X and here is the thought process.
I see Jack on the plane and realize that none of their lives should be changed until 'after' the moment when the plane dosn't crash. Except Hurley. If the hatch was never built then the numbers were never printed on the door and Leonard would never have heard them and repeated them to Hurley. Ethan could also have ended up as a Doctor in LA because all the women and children were sent off the island. OK, problem here. We know because of Miles and Charlotte that all the children were sent off the island the first go around so why was Ethan still on the island to become an other?
So, I will call the first story we saw track 1 and what happens whith the plane landing in LA track 2 or T1 and T2. On T1 everyone stayed on the island. On T2 all the women and children left. The island is a junction where the tracks cross so the Miles and Charlott we see as adults are actually riding on track 2 and on track one they died in the purge. This works for everyone on 815 and the freghter and Ben. He would never have come to the island on T2 if the island was at the bottom of the sea so the Ben we see on the island is the T1 Ben.
This still can't explain why their lives changed before they got onto the T2 plane to LA.
Perhaps Danielle was the one infected, not her team. As the infection reached her heart she killed them off. Ricardo tried to kill her not because he was sick but because she was.
I'm confused about Ethan's leaving the Island. At one point he was a teenager(?) in the woods with Ben to kidnap Alex. I'm sure he and Amy would have rated space on the sub. In real time, what went on between 1977 and 1988 when the French arrived?
8) Jim
Ethan was a DHARMA child, and became an Other... it is possible that in the original timeline, he never got on the sub because he was grabbed - by Ben or some other Other?
On another note, I watched the HBO movie about Temple Grandin tonight. Temple's friend Alice was SO familiar to me and it was making me CRAZY not to know why. So I imdb'ed it and found that she was portrayed by Melissa Farman - the young Danielle Rousseau. Without the French accent, I couldn't place the face! LOL
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Things are getting testy on the LP. One editor issued an five-minute ultimatum to another to move/delete a theory or he would do it.
Tsk tsk.
8) Jim
CM, I think the reason their lives changed before they got on the plane is because 'things changed' in '77, not '04. So 'butterfly effect'... I think that's the they are to learn from being selfish and changing the past.
Meant to say the lesson they learned from being selfish.
So dh read Duma Key, a Stephen King book. In it, there is a reference to LOST! Someone says that the Scottish guy on Lost says, "Do not mistake coincidence for fate," but that he might just have easily have said, "Do not mistake fate for coincidence."
Oddly, it was not Desmond, but rather Mr. Eko that said it (to Locke, who later said it to Desmond).
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Sounds like King's editor missed a fact check. Cool ref. anyway.
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